Help: my PowerMac G5 doesn't boot anymore :-(
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    tygrechingu
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    Hi Amigaharry2!

    Please find the screen grap here  :-)

    Do you see anything wrong in it?

    Cheers!

    PS. A friend'll lend me a SATA disk next week, I'll try and let you know!

    [ Edited by tygrechingu 18.07.2025 - 16:28 ]
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  • zeg
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    Some idea; Have had a similar problem some time ago. First i thought the harddrive goes wrong, checked all and everything, also bought a new 2nd hand g5 mac, Finaly i have also replaced the graphics card, and of course, the gfx-card which have died in some place, makes the trouble. There was no valid screen given anylonger. Have replaced the card, and all was fine again. byebye
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    Hi Zeg!

    Thanks for the tip!  :-)

    I'm not too familiar with the PowerMac G5 and MorphOS, what graphic card (or cards?) would you recommend?

    Cheers!
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    Oh, yes, please check up the Morphos page for it.
    Here, at the top of the Morphos compatibility-overview. https://www.morphos-team.net/hardware

    1.) Check up; which G5 mac is yours, mostly those models -> PowerMac 7,2 and PowerMac7,3 (A1047)
    2.) 2nd - the overview of all known gfx-cards which should work together with your g5 mac. Check also your own mac, open your mac, and have a look to the inner world of it. First, remove the powercable from it.. Which card was used before. (cleaning up the machine, propably full of dust.. )
    3.) check up your hardware-dealer, _bay.

    I have had various cards, like ATI Radeon X1950 XT, ATI Radeon 9800 XT ... byebye
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    Amigaharry2
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    Quote:

    tygrechingu schrieb:
    Hi Amigaharry2!

    Please find the screen grap here  :-)

    Do you see anything wrong in it?

    Cheers!

    PS. A friend'll lend me a SATA disk next week, I'll try and let you know!

    [ Edited by tygrechingu 18.07.2025 - 16:28 ]


    Please let me see how partitions are configured! (Pic, if you click on them)
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    tygrechingu
    Posts: 17 from 2025/7/10
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    Hi Zeg and Amigaharry2

    So, I wanted to take screenshots of the partitions in HD-Tools... and MorphOS doesn't boot anymore! 🤦‍♂️

    Booting is stuck on "DO-QUIESCE finished_" and, because I haven't done much with it since yesterday, I think that it could really be the hard disk.

    I'll try with a "new" disk this week and let you know and I'll also check out different graphic cards!

    Talk to you soon!  :-)
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    Amigaharry2
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    This message means that Kernel has bootet, but don't find a partition with the diskbased part to boot further.
    Therefore I want to see the config of your partitions. I guess something is wrong there..
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    Quote:

    Amigaharry2 wrote:
    This message means that Kernel has bootet, but don't find a partition with the diskbased part to boot further.


    And you can verify it by doing the MorphOS keyboard reset. Press the ctrl-cmd-cmd keyboard combination, and if it boots the machine, then it was on the MorphOS side rather than the Firmware side.

    One thing that could also make it to stuck at that point, is that if you have somehow incompatible Radeon driver installed on the system. I guess it's a farfetched idea, but checking if the System:MorphOS/Devs/Monitors/Radeon file is the same as on the installation media (or the one from Bigfoot's tinygl update).. in any case it shouldn't have booted in any way then, so very unlikely to be the issue here.
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    tygrechingu
    Posts: 17 from 2025/7/10
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    Hi Amigaharry2 and jPV!

    Thanks for your help!  :-)

    So, I got another SATA disk, more modern!, and reinstalled MorphOS from scratch. As before, it went without a glitch!

    Still, same problem: my G5 chimes but only boots if I go in OF and type "bye" or "boot".

    I uploaded the config of my partitions here: HDConfig, DH0, DH1, and DH2 (all created automatically by the installer).

    I check the Radeon driver, it's version 52.41. Is that the proper/latest version?

    The next step would be to try a different graphic card?

    Best!
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    Amigaharry2
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    The latest driver is 52.43 from MOS 3.19. I don't think that your gra-card is the reason.
    For what I can see, your partitioning is OK. It's crazy that it does not boot! I can only imagine that you did something wrong in ENV-variables and/or NVRAM.

    Please post here folowing again: Environmentvariables, NVRAM and the device-alias:

    > printenv

    > devalias

    Your HD is mounted to the 1st SATA-Port? If not, please do and for test put all other drives away (if there any).

    -----------------------
    If we don't find the reason, don't give up. There is a second way: we can do it with a forth-bootmenue. This should work in any case.

    Here a output from my devalias! The block beginning with sata is interessting for you.The rest is not really necessary for booting.

    Code:
    0 >             devalias                devalias 
    keyboard /pseudo-hid/keyboard
    mouse /pseudo-hid/mouse
    eject-key /pseudo-hid/eject-key
    pci0 /pci@0,f0000000
    ipc /ipc
    scca /ht/pci@1/mac-io/escc/ch-a
    nvram /nvram
    uni-n /u3
    u3 /u3
    dart /u3/dart
    uni-mpic /u3/mpic
    ui2c /u3/i2c
    cpu0 /cpus/@0
    cpu1 /cpus/@1
    cpu2 /cpus/@2
    cpu3 /cpus/@3
    mac-io /ht/pci@1/mac-io
    k2-mac-io /ht/pci@1/mac-io
    macio-mpic /ht/pci@1/mac-io/mpic
    via-pmu /ht/pci@1/mac-io/via-pmu
    rtc /ht/pci@1/mac-io/via-pmu/rtc
    sccb /ht/pci@1/mac-io/escc/ch-b
    ki2c /ht/pci@1/mac-io/i2c
    usb0 /ht/pci@1/@8
    usb1 /ht/pci@1/@9
    usb-1a /ht/pci@1/@8
    usb-1b /ht/pci@1/@9
    sata /ht/pci@5/k2-sata-root
    k2-sata /ht/pci@5/k2-sata-root
    hd /ht/pci@5/k2-sata-root/k2-sata@0/disk@0
    ultra0 /ht/pci@5/k2-sata-root/k2-sata@0/disk@0
    sd0 /ht/pci@5/k2-sata-root/k2-sata@0/disk@0
    ultra1 /ht/pci@5/k2-sata-root/k2-sata@1/disk@0
    sd1 /ht/pci@5/k2-sata-root/k2-sata@1/disk@0

    enet /ht/pci@4/ethernet
    k2-enet /ht/pci@4/ethernet
    usb2 /ht/pci@2/@b
    usb3 /ht/pci@2/@b,1
    usb-2a /ht/pci@2/@b
    usb-2b /ht/pci@2/@b,1
    usb-2c /ht/pci@2/@b,2
    uata /ht/pci@3/ata-6
    cd /ht/pci@3/ata-6/disk@0
    cd1 /ht/pci@3/ata-6/disk@1
    fw /ht/pci@3/firewire
    k2-uata /ht/pci@3/ata-6
    k2-cd /ht/pci@3/ata-6/disk@0
    k2-fw /ht/pci@3/firewire
    pci /ht/pci@4
    pci1 /ht/pci@1
    pci2 /ht/pci@2
    pci3 /ht/pci@3
    pci4 /ht/pci@4
    pci5 /ht/pci@5
    pci6 /ht/pci@6
    pci7 /ht/pci@7
    wireless /ht@0,f2000000/pci@2/pci80211@1
    sysclk /u3/i2c/i2c-hwclock@d2
    vsp /vsp
    veo0 /vsp/veo@f9080000
    veo1 /vsp/veo@f9180000
    veo2 /vsp/veo@f9280000
    first-boot /ht@0,f2000000/pci@5/k2-sata-root@c/k2-sata
    second-boot /ht@0,f2000000/pci@3/ata-6@d/disk
    last-boot /ht@0,f2000000/pci@4/ethernet
    screen /pci@0,f0000000/ATY,PitonParent@10/ATY,Piton_A@0
    ok


    And here my ENVVAR:

    I use a boot-menue, so boot-device and boot-command should be hd:,\:tbxi and mac-boot in your case.

    Code:
     printen               printenv                printenv 
    -------------- Partition: common -------- Signature: 0x70 ---------------
    little-endian? false false
    real-mode? false false
    auto-boot? true true
    diag-switch? false false
    fcode-debug? false false
    oem-banner? false false
    oem-logo? false false
    use-nvramrc? false false
    use-generic? false false
    default-mac-address? false false
    scroll-lock true true
    skip-netboot? true false
    real-base -1 -1
    real-size -1 -1
    load-base 0x800000 0x800000
    virt-base -1 -1
    virt-size -1 -1
    logger-base -1 -1
    logger-size -1 -1
    pci-probe-mask -1 -1
    screen-#columns 100 100
    screen-#rows 40 40
    selftest-#megs 0 0
    boot-volume 3 3
    gmt-offset 0 0
    boot-device hd:,menue hd:,\:tbxi
    boot-file
    boot-screen screen screen
    console-screen screen screen
    diag-device enet enet
    diag-file ,diags ,diags
    input-device keyboard keyboard
    output-device screen screen
    input-device-1 /ipc /ipc
    output-device-1 /ipc /ipc
    mouse-device mouse mouse
    oem-banner
    oem-logo
    nvramrc
    boot-command boot mac-boot
    default-client-ip
    default-server-ip
    default-gateway-ip
    default-subnet-mask
    default-router-ip
    boot-script
    aapl,pci Use PRINT-AAPL,PCI to view
    ram-size 0x18000000
    boot-args
    aapl,tdm-units
    platform-uuid 00000000 00001000 80000014 510cd328
    skip-netboot
    ok


    Normaly on G5-OF there is no need for any NVRAM-definitions!
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  • jPV
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    Yeah, I don't think it's about Radeon, because you can get it to boot somehow.

    I would try to put the HD in the sata@0/disk@0 port... if something doesn't work here when the HD isn't on the connector it usually is...
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