I think modt of you already heard about the latest efford to bring on new ppc hardware: The Mirari board.
Board-designer is the community known guy called „Geennaam“ who has kind of a good and proven track record.

Read the specs and story over at
amiga-news.de

Well if and when it arrives - will MorphOS support it quicker than OS4…?

And how will it perform in comparison with current supported hardware. If it will be quicker than my current most powerful system (iMac G5) and price tag will not be insane, I could be actually interested. But probably rather in a T2081 version.

Of course I would still prefer a x64 MorphOS, but I’ll take whatever will be available as long as it is a significant update to current solutions.


Your thoughts or comments…?

It surely sounds interesting. I would like an affordable new solution that wouldn't be too power hungry and clumsy heater even if it wouldn't be faster than G5 systems.. if it'd just be faster than Mac minis and fit in a smallish case :)

Sounds good to me.

E6500 looks interested with Altivec 2.0 support. With accelerated video decoding this could be a very nice MorphOS setup. With a price tag at <1000 Euro i would consider buying one.

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Hmmm, I thought it didn't have Altivec. If that is the case, would be a great box for MorphOS.

I definitely will be buying one, when MorphOS is available for it.

The higher end CPU option appears to have Altivec per their description.

-T10x2 (2-4 e5500 cores) up to 1.5GHz / T2081 (4 dual-threaded e6500 cores with Altivec 2.0) up to 1.8GHz

TJ


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[ Edited by amigasociety 02.05.2025 - 13:30 ]

Definitely keeping an eye on this one. Obviously it needs software support, but looks interesting for sure.

> I thought it didn't have Altivec.

The T2081's e6500 core has. See the original 14-year-old MorphZone thread on this core:

https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7901&forum=11

> how will it perform in comparison with current supported hardware.

At least the T1042 version can be directly compared to the X5000's P50x0 based on the clock rate as it's the same e5500 core (in 28nm rather than 45nm process node, though).
And while the e6500 is slightly faster per clock than the e5500 in scalar code and has AltiVec SIMD in addition, it's maxing out at 1.8 GHz compared to the 2.2 GHz of the X5000/40's e5500. I wouldn't be too surprised if 2.2 GHz e5500 proves faster in real world usage than 1.8 GHz e6500.

Sounds interesting. But how much will the Board cost?
And how fast will it be compared to an G5 with 2.5Ghz?
Found a comparison between G5 and e6500 but don't understand if lower or higher values are better.
Here are the Benchmarks

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Some so some so...

Some are scores (higher == better) other are times (lower == better) but you can't really gain much of this as it is 4 double threaded cores vs. 2 single threaded one.
So would the performance of 1 core running 1 thread 1/8, 1/4 or maybe something else?

It's pretty much the same core as used in the X5000 so disregarding Altivec about the same as a G5 running at the same clock.

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The results are puzzling indeed.
From what I've found it's

CPU Blowfish: higher = better (but G5 beating both e6500 and i7-4600U to the ground? Hmm...)
CPU CryptoHash: higher = better (both e6500 and i7 way faster than G5)
CPU Fibonacci (s): lower = better (both PPCs almost on par, e6500 slightly faster. i7 much faster)
CPU N-Queens (s): lower = better (e6500 comes first, then i7. G5 1,8 far behind)
CPU Zlib: higher = better (G5 slowest, e6500 better, i7 wins)
FPU FFT: higher = better (i7 worst, then e6500, and G5 wins)
FPU Raytracing (s): lower = better (G5 fails miserably, then e6500, and i7 just a bit better)
GPU Drawing: higher = better (Radeon 9600 is the slowest, then RadeonHD 5450 and Intel HD Graphics 4400 wins)

Thx Kronos and koszer.
So the E6500 won't be much faster as the G5 in general. Just in some tasks.
I hope that at least the power efficiency will be much better.
What i need is a machine that is capable of running MorphOS and being much faster when it comes to browsing the internet then the G5.

I would l like to have a new modern PPC board for a effordable prize.
My Mac Mini is dying and has too less vram, the Mac MDD is too loud and the Power Mac G5 consumes
too much electricity.

So having a new board, which provides modern mass storage devices in (m)itx case with a slightly newer gfx card
and with the speed of a G4 would be very cool.

Go 4 it!!!!

> I hope that at least the power efficiency will be much better.

Yes, e6500 is much more power efficient than PPC970.

> What i need is a machine that is [...] much faster when it comes
> to browsing the internet then the G5.

Won't happen with e6500.

> a new board [...] in (m)itx case

This microATX board won't fit in such case.

> T10x2 (2-4 e5500 cores) up to 1.5GHz

1.4 GHz quad-core T1042 Mirari prototype board running Linux: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6VtYjTBQTo

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Nice, looks really interesting