Hi everybody,

Yesterday I got my PegII motherboard.
I've got a IBM Realstar 40GB 7200RPM harddrive. Worked perfectly with the PegI (with a 80 pin cable) but not with the PegII.

The firmware of PegII couldn't recognise it, although booting with the cd it showed all partitions in Ambient!
I tried SCSIConfig, but that too gave wrong figures for the harddrive.
I ended with messing up the harddrive and now I've got to install everything again.

Spidey

Hi,
I have a 60GB IBM harddrive and it is not recognised either on a cold boot. I believe it to be caused by the fact that the Pegasos boots much faster than a PC and the harddrive wasn't made to start up that fast. Try pressing the reset button when you hit the boot prompt after a cold start, that does it for me. Actually I can get away with hitting reset about 1-2s after I've powered on.

Hope that helps you. The Peg II is a great machine so don't send it back :).

Got the same problem with a WDC hard drive

my solution was to set the hard drive as cable select

Hi,

We are not talking about old harddrives here. They should work. And if it is a problem in the Firmware it should be fixed on the double. We, ahum nerds, can take a few resets but telling some people that when they start their Peg they have to reset a few times to make it work, is not a good thing.

Coder

I actually got a bit scared reading this thread. The last thing I want is any hassle/probs with the HD. I am planning to buy a harddrive for my PEG2, so what kind do you reccommend (which models work flawlessly)? I was thinking of a Seagate, coz they are said to be the most silent drives out there.

@muckboy

My 80 gig Barracuda works without problems, but I've heard
of other people with these drives who *do* experience this.

About the noise -- Seagate is really hyping their drives
as being the most quiet, but do some research before you
buy...the storagereview.com forums are a good place
to get some objective-ish input from others on drive "noise".

Hi dholm,

Unfortunately cold booting isn't the problem with my harddrive.
Ive tried it several times:

- Having it at connector 1 as a single drive.
- At connector 1 as master and a slave CD-ROM
- The other way around
- As Cable Select
- And the same with connector 2

They all didn't work for me. Oh, and I even tried an "ordinary" 40-pin cable.

After this I tried my trusty old 850MB harddrive which is in my A1200.
That was immediately recognised (all three partitions) in the firmware! (it's a Seagate bytheway)

And "no", I will not send my PegII away. Just waiting for a compatible harddrive

Bye,

Spidey

I know Develin has a Seagate Barracuda IV 80GB, in his Peg 2 and I have a Seagate 7200.7 also 80GB in mine, and they are indeed very quiet =)

Both work just fine, no problems detecting or anything like that.

BTW, I've also tried a Maxtor DiamondMax 40GB, which I had in my Amiga 4000. Worked fine too.

I have a Maxtor Diamond Ultra 40mb HD here on my peg 2 works fantatstic... fast and quiet! Also no need to reset box. :)

I have a Seagate 80mb baraccuda in my peg1 and super quiet and fast!

interestingly.. i tried an old 430 mb Seagate drive and a 120mb drive (from a4000) and they wouldnt work with peg2 ide...

magnetic

Hi folks,

I read about the Pegasos II being picky with hard drives and I thought to give my new Pegasos || G4 1GHz/512MB a try with some IDE hard drives that I had lying around.

I tested wether a drive was detected by Open Firmware and Morph OS in master, cable select or jumperless setting in combination with a Artec 34x ATAPI CD-ROM as slave on the same 80-wire ATA-100 cable. In Open Firmware I gave a "devalias" and a "ls hd". I used the Morph OS 1.4 CD to boot my Pegasos and use the "Unit-Control" and "SCSI-Config" tools to see if Morph detected the drive.

Note that I discovered later that my Artec CD-ROM also didn't function properly in combination with all drives. Sometimes only the hard drive was detected, and other times only the CD-ROM. It is also the reason that I tested the Artec as slave only; in master setting the Pegasos hangs before being able to boot into Open Firmware.
Replacing the Artec by a RICOH MP9060A CD-RW/DVD-ROM combo solved these issues.

It still seems to me that the Pegasos II with Morph OS indeed doesn't like drives that have a capacity less than 3GB or older than a few years. IMHO, if you have problems with a combination of a hard drive and a CD-ROM, try to put each device on its own cable. Or replace the CD-ROM drive with a more recent one. Unfortunately I don't have Linux installed (yet) to test wether this is a Morph or Pegasos II issue. If anyone has, I'd like to read their results too.
Hopefully in future Genesi can address this drive issue so I can create a silent machine with my Compact Flash drives...

I was too lazy to do all tests again with the Ricoh, but I nevertheless I wanted to share my information with you.

These are my test results:

/*
Working drives:
*/
Maxtor DiamondMax Plus 9 (160GB) factory new, unformatted
This hard drive is shipped by default with cable select setting.
With cable select it's not detected by Open Firmware.
Configured as master it is detected by OF.
Morph OS 1.4 boots and detects this drive, even in CS configuration. This is the drive that I use in my Pegasos II.

Western Digital Caviar 307AA (30.7GB), FFS formatted
This Western Digital drive type operates in single drive configuration without a jumper, and REQUIRES a slave drive on the cable when configured as master.
Is detected by Open Firmware, sees all my 4 FFS partitions.
Morph OS 1.4 boots and mounts all partitions.

Western Digital Caviar 33100 (3167MB), FFS formatted
This Western Digital drive type operates in single drive configuration without a jumper, and REQUIRES a slave drive on the cable when configured as master.
Is detected by Open Firmware, sees all my FFS partitions.
Morph OS 1.4 boots and mounts all partitions.


/*
Not (properly) working:
*/
Artec 34x ATAPI CD-ROM
It does function as single drive on a cable.
With two drives on a cable it functions as slave. It doesn't as master. But gives problems in combination with some drives.

USB CF reader
Is not detected by OF.

Firewire Harddisk, Oxford IDE-Firewire bridge (<128GB)
None of my Firewire - IDE enclosures were detected by OF or Morph.

Sandisk 128 MB CF via IDE, FAT32 formatted
Is detected by Open Firmware, sees partitions.
Morph OS 1.4 boots, but doesn't see a connected ide device (except the CD-ROM).

Western Digital Caviar 31600 (1600MB), FFS formatted
Not detected by Open Firmware at a cold boot.
Detected by Open Firmware after a reset.
Morph OS 1.4 hangs in OF while displaying "Quark/OpenFirmware".

Western Digital Caviar 2250 (255MB), FFS formatted
Not detected by Open Firmware, not even after reset.
The CD-ROM also isn't detected, so I couldn't boot into Morph.

Western Digital Caviar 2850 (850MB), NTFS formatted
Not detected by Open Firmware.
Morph OS 1.4 hangs in OF while displaying "Quark/OpenFirmware".

Kalok KL3100 (105MB), FAT formatted
Is not detected by Open Firmware.
When it's the only drive on the cable it doesn't show in OF, but it does in MorphOS.

Well, I recently tried a 30GB "Deathstar", and the Pegasos wouldn't even
boot into the OF with this drive attatched; it just locked solid. I thought
the drive was trashed until I plugged it into my PC...where it worked fine
(although loud as hell).


On a slightly (un)related note...for those who are in the market for new
drives...

I just bought a Samsung "Spinpoint" (120GB, 8 meg cache) to replace my
"noisy" 7200.7 Barracuda. The Samsung is *slightly* louder at idle than the
Seagate, but the annoying high-pitched whine and retarded "head saver
feature" noises of the Barracuda are gone...yay! The idle sound of the
Samsung is really just a barely audible, low-pitched "whoosh"...very
unintrusive. The Samsung does bench slightly faster according to Amiga -
Mark, boot times and general operation are noticeaby quicker.

I threw the Barracuda in my PC, and with a few fans obfuscating the drive
noise, it's dead silent. ;)

Hello NoX86,

So it's clear a brand isn't enough to know it works with PegII.
Your test with the last drive, Kalok KL3100 105MB has the same result as my IBM 40 GB (reason to start this thread).

I hope all these glitches are cured in time

Bye,

Spidey

Quote:
If the problem is Pegasos 2 booting too fast, it might happen more on Voodoo-equipped Pegasos 2's out there...

At least Pegasos 1 with Radeon GFX card boots a bit slower than Pegasos with Voodoo gfx card. Dunno if it's the same with Pegasos 2 aswell.

Tonight I tried to swap a 40GB Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 into my Peg1 and it acted very strange. It allowed me to partition, format, and load MorphOS onto it, but when I booted from the drive, it booted to Ambient and showed mostly a blank screen, with only the menu bar and a couple of lines below that actually displaying. I'm going to clear one of the Maxtor drives out of my B/W G3 and see if one of them works any better.

>I've got a IBM Realstar 40GB 7200RPM harddrive.

Good luck. It's basicly Deskstar-series harddrive. The worst harddrive-series ever made in computer history. My guess it will break in less than a year. PM in 12 months if it aint so