Compaq VooDoo3 3500 AGP video card sold by Sears?
  • Jim
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    I found this via a web search.

    http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_SPM6323106708P?PDP_REDIRECT=false

    If I am not mistaken, its a VooDoo3 3500 san tv tuner with VGA and DVI output.
    It could just be the illustration though.
    Weird.

    BTW - Do any of our systems have a 3.3v AGP slot?
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    Weird indeed!
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    > Do any of our systems have a 3.3v AGP slot?

    - PowerMac G4 AGP Graphics
    - PowerMac G4 Gigabit Ethernet
    - Pegasos I
    - probably Pegasos II
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    Jim,
    I'd avoid Voodoo 3 because:

    1)I think most models (this one excluded, I guess) have only VGA output. At least the model I had in the past had noticeably worse image than my first Radeon 9100 with DVI. Replaced with 9100 when 3D support was finally added, and never looked back.

    2)You're limited to 16bit screenmodes when using 3D (if you run OpenGL program in window, the screen must be 16bit, of course less of an issue if using own screen)

    3)At least most Voodoo 3 hardware has only 16MB of memory (half of "worse" Mac Mini models, that most users consider "not enough" - of course memory consumption is half of what you use with 32bit screens)

    4)Max texture size 256. Texture width or height cannot be higher than that. Better coded games surely will downscale textures automatically, but then the quality will be worse, of course.

    5)If we ever get shader support to TinyGL, that most definitely won't work on Voodoo 3.

    6)I don't think many people from users or developers use Voodoo 3 actively anymore, so it's more likely (than with Radeon boards) that there will be unnoticed bugs in future releases of MorphOS & fixing them will be lower priority.

    7)You get a much nicer looking pointer with "less outdated" graphics card. I think the pointer is restricted to something like 4 colors on Voodoo 3.

    Sure, if I saw one for "almost free", could buy it as curiosity, but I already got that covered with Voodoo 5 5500 I got for 5 euros :-)

    (Actually I used it for a while, when I had problems with my Radeon 9000 pro and it definitely wasn't "much slower", and that with using only one of the 2 GPU's afaik)
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    I have been using a Voodoo3 2000 PCI card for some time as a second video card with my Radeon 9000.
    It works fairly well.
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:
    > Do any of our systems have a 3.3v AGP slot?

    - PowerMac G4 AGP Graphics
    - PowerMac G4 Gigabit Ethernet
    - Pegasos I
    - probably Pegasos II


    Thanks Andreas.
    I was looking at Voodoo4 4500 PCI cards, but they are too expensive and I'm not sure the jump in performance would be that great (although 32 bit modes and the extra 16mb of vram would be nice).
    But it looks like I could switch to a Voodoo3 3500 AGP card with a Radeon PCI card for a lot cheaper (with the right base system0.
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    Andreas_Wolf,
    Quote:

    - probably Pegasos II


    Confirmed, Pegasos II uses a 3.3 volt AGP port.
    Also, due to issues with Voodoo4/5 drivers, the PegII might be the only system that will display correct colors under MorphOS.
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    Quote:

    But it looks like I could switch to a Voodoo3 3500 AGP card with a Radeon PCI card for a lot cheaper (with the right base system0.


    Two gfx cards on the same systems? What is the point?
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    >> - probably Pegasos II

    > Confirmed, Pegasos II uses a 3.3 volt AGP port.

    Does that also mean confirmation of my suspicion that the alleged "AGP 2.0" spec mentioned in the Pegasos II manual is false?

    > due to issues with Voodoo4/5 drivers, the PegII might be the only system that will
    > display correct colors under MorphOS.

    I guess the PegI would work then, too :-)
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    > Two gfx cards on the same systems? What is the point?

    Using two monitors in parallel, for instance. Read there for even more fun:

    https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=4434&forum=11
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    Andreas_Wolf,
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    Does that also mean confirmation of my suspicion that the alleged "AGP 2.0" spec mentioned in the Pegasos II manual is false?


    That would seem to be the case.
    Many video cards won't work at this voltage.
    For instance, many Radeon 9800s are keyed for 4x/8x, only some have the additional key for 3.3 operation.
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