Hello Everybody....

Anybody have Perfect Paint working
on our lovely Pegasos ???

When i select CyberGraphix in the
Tooltypes nothing happens, only a
screenmode requester and select one
then pushing "OK" and then......
Nothing....
Please help, i love that program

Starts but can't say it works.

If you know how it works,
Please let me know

Thanks

I want it too.......
:(

Yes, this is an application many have wanted to have working. I would like to try it myself!

Targhan:
Yes indeed, oke try it and
let me know, i would be very
happy if someone get's PPaint
to work

Thanks

Sorry dissapoint you here but ive tried perfect paint out and i cant get it to work either (and the source is in 68k asm) so a port to MorphOS is very unlikely.

Yes you are dissapointing me
But why does a lot 68k programs
works and not PerfectPaint ???

But a port for MOS is indeed
unlikey because i contact severly
times the author
but he never reply's

But is the problem 68K really??
Or does problem causes by some
library's ???

I really want to know because like
the GFX mode is the same (CGFX or Picasso)
as the Amiga ?!?!

Please let me understand the problem why it's not working, because i'm really sick of it

Heh well i seriously dont know i havent seen the sources myself! but i can only think that its dependant of the custom chips in some way! how hard it would be to change this i dont know but i doubt the author would do it as he is no Pegasos user.

@ Sphinx_Ra,

>Anybody have Perfect Paint working on our lovely Pegasos ???

Well, depends on your definition of "working".

I can start PerfectPaint and work with it a little bit, but it is not very stable.
However I never did much with it as I'm not a graphician (I only used it for cutting brushes from a picture).

We had this problem (not starting) already at the Betatester2 mailinglist some months ago, but AFAIK it never got solved why it didn't work at the other ones Pegasos.

All I can say is that I had to add "RAMDEBUG" at the boot option otherwise I never was able to start it here.


Bye HAK

Work a little bit ?!?!
That a lot further than me
add "RAMDEBUG" ?!?!
MUST I PUT THAT IN TOOLTYPES OR SOMETHING ??

Thanks

@ Sphinx_Ra,


>MUST I PUT THAT IN TOOLTYPES OR SOMETHING ??

No, that is something you have to do in the OF.


Short explanation:
In the OF there are several environment variables that are responsible how the Pegasos reacts during booting.

One of those is "boot-file". Normally its value is "boot.img", meaning that during startup the OF looks somewhere (depending on another environment variable) for a file called "boot.img" and loads/starts it.
Without anything else this means also, that any debug message will be sent to the serial port where they can be read from another computer that is connected to it.

You can add several parameters that change the behaviour of MorphOS during startup. One of those parameters is "ramdebug". When adding this option debug messages will be sent to ram and can be read later on with a special program.


Long explanation:
For further information concerning OF and boot parameters please consult the Documents in Sys:Docs, especially SFUserManual.pdf and SmartFirmWare.pdf.


To-Do:
To change the value for the next booting just stop the OF before it starts with booting MorphOS and insert "boot boot.img ramdebug".
This will boot MorphOS with the option set (what makes Perfect Paint running here).
If this works you can change it permanently by entering "setenv boot-file boot.img ramdebug" in the OF.


Caution:
TAMPERING WITH THE OF CAN LEAD YOUR PEGASOS IN A STATE WHERE IT DOES NOT BOOT ANYMORE.


Back to business:
To be honest, I don't know why the ramdebug parameter makes Perfect Paint run here.
I just can assume that it throws that many hits (well the debuglog is at least 4 MByte big) that it would take ages if they are sent to the serial port leading to a lock of Perfect Paint.

Sorry to be that long-winded, but as I don't know your knowledge of OF and boot parameters, I think it is important that you know that you can run into trouble when changing them, so you should at least know what you are doing.


Bye HAK

Quote:
Wasn't it done in Blitz Basic, or am I thinking of some other graphics program?

@HAK

Thanks for the explenation

"insert "boot boot.img ramdebug",

YES !!!! Cool thanks, that works

"Sorry to be that long-winded, but as I don't know your knowledge of OF and boot parameters"

Well... nothing at all but now with your
explenations a lot more

BTW It's not working properly, like if i
change a picture size it's freeze, almost
anything i change with the picture it's freeze,
(Application is meditating)
and the colors in the "Box" are not there
Do you have Picasso or CyberGFX in tooltypes
enabled ???
It is logic that CyberGFX is on i know, but
you never know

Thanks

@ Sphinx_Ra,


>BTW It's not working properly,...

Well, I warned you. ;)

I'm not sure, but I think it always comes into trouble when it opens a subwindow which contains a string gadget (like the resizing or crop window).


>Do you have Picasso or CyberGFX in tooltypes enabled ???

CyberGFX. IIRC it doesn't work with Picasso.



Bye HAK

PfPaint is in BlitzBasic...
BlitzBasic hits in hard by default, an the author can't do nothing...
He can only reprogram it... and I don't think he wants to pass to the C.

Quote:As a general statement, this is not true. While some of the blitz libraries may not work with morphos, most of them do.

There are ways of writing programs in Blitz that run perfectly under morphos. The bulk newsgroup decoder that I've been writing off and on for the last couple of weeks is written in Blitz2 and it runs not only flawlessly* under morphos, but much much faster as well.

There are several things he could check to make sure it's as system friendly as possible:
-Use the newest version of AmiBlitz.
-Don't compile in the runtime error/debugger. That won't run under morphos.

Barring that, either one of the libraries being used isn't system friendly or something in the code isn't system friendly. To say that it won't run just because it was written in AmiBlitz is rubbish.

(* flawlessly meaning just as stable compared to running under AmigaOS.)

@HAK

Yep, you warned me :)

So to the conclusion, it will
never work proberly
Thanks anyway for the information

@Madgun68

I believe that, did you try to
contact the author as well ??
Because i tryd, but no responses