1:

the results on ppcnux page are a bit low. a friend with 9200se made a tests and he got following results (tested with max settings. next to these in brackets are results from radeon 7500 128bit):

800x600 - 31 (38)
1024x768 - 19 (36)
1280x1024 - 16,9 (28)

pegasos4 g4. before test TGLSYNC envvar was set to 0 (disable waiting for vertical refresh) with setenv TGLSYNC 0 and then flushlib with avail flush. it only shows that radeon 9200se is a low-end card.

2:
Current drivers are not using hardware T&L unit. shaders won't help here either as they are used for completely different things.

3:
Don't expect that one, non-payed man will create better/equal drivers than the ones delivered by card manufacturer. Compare speed between linux and mos drivers running on same machine. I would really like to see how quake3 performs there.

4:
Some things can't be enabled without new MorphOS release. With 1.5 You should get nice speedup (both radeon and voodoo). Don't ask what or when please.


[ Edited by kiero on 2005/9/6 4:14 ]

Kiero

Thanks for clearing it up. I know you are using a Radeon 7500 as am I . Do you think I need to upgrade my card to have nice looking screens and it be fast enough for network play @ 32bit? Please tell me what framerate you are getting and such. And naturally thanks for your hardwork on the tinygl. And I did donate as should everyone who uses the drivers

magnetic

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Even on G3 ? :)

Leo.

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Yes.


- CISC

CISC

What component of "1.5" gives this speedup? Does the alpha ver I have give this speedup.. and glad to see you posting here...



magnetic

See kiero's answer.


- CISC

No asking what or when maybe CISC? ;)

"the results on ppcnux page are a bit low. a friend with 9200se made a tests and he got following results (tested with max settings. next to these in brackets are results from radeon 7500 128bit):

800x600 - 31 (38)
1024x768 - 19 (36)
1280x1024 - 16,9 (28)"


I really cannot get them any higher than

800x600 - 27.1
1024x768 - 15.6
1280x1024 - 12.7

with max settings.

@Tarbos
Maybe you use ram modules with different speeds.

Just did a quick test to see how much of a speed up can be expected. In 1024x768x32 I get a 89% speedup in timedemo in Q3. This is probably an extreme case, but a very good speed up can be expected.

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Sure you didn't forget one comma in somewhere there?

89,0% you mean?:)

LOL

Fine, 88.7159533074% then. Happy now? :)

Wow! that's a huge increase of speed

We'll wait patiently the release of the mighty 1.5.

In the meantime... LOTS OF THANKS to all people involved in releasing the drivers for 1.4!!!

And lots of thanks for releasing Quake3 too.

Last weeks have been full of surprises and I'm very happy

:dancingbananas:

@Crumb:

This was a test with the standard OEM 256MB ODW module.
Today I exchanged it for my MDT 512MB one and got the following results (max quality and options):

800x600 - 27.1 -> 27.2
1024x768 - 15.6 -> 15.6
1280x1024 - 12.7 -> 12.4 (uhm, maybe with more testing it might have hit 12.7 again)

The marginally better RAM does not do much for high quality results, but the normal (+ high geometry) settings benefited:

640x480 - 40.1 -> 41.3
800x600 - 36.0 -> 36.9
1024x768 - 28.4 -> 28.9

I guess Kiero's friend must have a differently clocked gfxcard, better OS components or did not use the same game settings.

So I just wait for the upcoming optimizations and think about how to express my appreciation without having to register with Paypal. :)

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Hm? It's merely a 1.89x increase... ;)


- CISC

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This works too... ;)


- CISC

Hi

Does anyone knows why when i tryied to load q3 i get the message "CANNOT OPEN A DISPLAY"?

please notice that i have installed quake normaly.. i made the upgrade from the internet(server connection) but the game is not starting.

My specs are : G4, ATI RADEON, 40GHD, 512 MEMORY.

Thanks in advance for your help

George :)

Which Radeon is it and which OEM did it???

Hi

ATI9200

WHAT DO YOU MEAN WITH OEM??

OEM means who is the manufacture.
My Radeon 9250 was build by HIS, there are some others like Club3D, Captiva, GCube, ASUS, Saphire...

OK !

MY RADEON IS 9200 OEM IS CLUB3D

THANKS!

GEORGE

I had the same problem like you with the 9200 by GCube here with the HIS Radeon 9200 all is ok also the Captive Card was crap.

You mean the problem is the graphic card?