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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    runequester
    Posts: 106 from 2010/1/11
    "Why do you favor a CS OS then?"

    For "amiga", it was the best option. Never could get AROS to boot, and honestly, if I had bought a PC to replace my dead one, I'd have run linux instead.
    Amiga 1200 and G4 MDD MOS as my main computers.
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Fraggle
    Posts: 203 from 2012/9/2
    Same, never seen AROS outside a virtual machine to be honest. I used to believe in its future but nowadays I`m not so sure, seems like it`s begun to fragment or is close to doing so.

    The only other real option (besides MOS of course) is, in my opinion, Amithlon which is still pretty killer even today.

    Sorry for inserting another off-topic post in this thread lol :o)
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
    From: Stockholm, Sweden
    I have two native AROS machines, one Acer Aspire One ZG5 and one ARESONE 2011. Since AROS is still mostly alpha and beta it still got plenty of bugs and missing features. But unless AOS 4.x and MorphOS don't expand their hardware base I think AROS is the only platform actually having a shot.

    AOS 4.x is buggy and requires very expensive hardware. MorphOS on the other hand seems much more stable and useful, but even the newest hardware is 7 or so years old by now.

    Not intending to hijack the thread either. I'm no anti-MorphOS AROS fanatic, but the only way to convince me to buy a licence is to show me what new or reasonably new hardware I will be able to use with MorphOS. And as of now, there seems to be none.
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  • jPV
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    jPV
    Posts: 2021 from 2003/2/24
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    Quote:

    MorphOS on the other hand seems much more stable and useful, but even the newest hardware is 7 or so years old by now.


    So what, if it still works fine and is fast enough? There's lot of slower new hardware on sale too, what makes them any better? Actually my MorphOS hardware is newer than my PC hw, and both are equally enough for me :)
  • »07.10.12 - 06:37
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
    From: Stockholm, Sweden
    The point is not that it's bad hardware, it's that it's not being made anymore and will only get older and older. If MorphOS became compatible with new hardware that is still being made I would consider it seriously. I still think it seems like a fun system to use (it's Amiga after all :) But as long as there is no news from the front about platform change I'm not all that interested.
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  • Butterfly
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    danwood
    Posts: 95 from 2009/10/5
    Honestly 7 years is nothing in the Amigasphere, my a1200 and cd32 are still working great and they're 20 years old now. There's still plenty of life left in the ppc macs.
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    redrumloa
    Posts: 1424 from 2003/4/13
    Yasu,
    Quote:

    The point is not that it's bad hardware, it's that it's not being made anymore and will only get older and older. If MorphOS became compatible with new hardware that is still being made I would consider it seriously. I still think it seems like a fun system to use (it's Amiga after all :) But as long as there is no news from the front about platform change I'm not all that interested.



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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
    From: Delaware, USA
    redrumloa,
    Quote:

    http://dark-circuit.com/newsearch.php?find=efika



    Genesi "The 5200B-based version of the EFIKA mainboard has been discontinued and was replaced with the EFIKA MX"

    No thanks Red.
    I'll stick with my "old" Powermac as its several times more powerful.
    And come to think of it, its also more powerful then most of the "new" hardware available for OS4.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »07.10.12 - 13:46
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    koan
    Posts: 303 from 2005/11/21
    From: UK
    How about considering LaTeX and LyX ?

    There are already a number of tools on Aminet.

    Also see http://www.ctan.org/ for extension modules, etc.
  • »07.10.12 - 20:30
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Fraggle
    Posts: 203 from 2012/9/2
    Argh! Not LaTeX! Don`t remind me of university!

    [ Edited by Fraggle 07.10.2012 - 20:58 ]
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  • »07.10.12 - 20:57
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    redrumloa
    Posts: 1424 from 2003/4/13
    Jim,
    Quote:

    No thanks Red.
    I'll stick with my "old" Powermac as its several times more powerful.
    And come to think of it, its also more powerful then most of the "new" hardware available for OS4.


    My post was to Yasu who insists he will only buy "new" hardware. Efika are still available as new.
  • »08.10.12 - 03:32
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  • Jim
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    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    NOS, anyway Red.

    It would be nice to have some new equipment.
    But the developers have ruled out Acube hardware (which many think is under powered).
    And until Aeon was reformed, I don't think they saw the X1000 as a good candidate (BH's involvement).

    Maybe Trevor can get Varisys to design a Qorlq based system with us in mind and pay for MorphOS porting to that.

    BTW - What video card are you using?

    [ Edited by Jim 08.10.2012 - 03:44 ]
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »08.10.12 - 03:43
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12058 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > [...] Yasu who insists he will only buy "new" hardware.
    > Efika are still available as new.

    Yasu said he would only buy "new hardware that is still being made". The Efika 5200B stopped being made 5 years ago.
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12058 from 2003/5/22
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    > until Aeon was reformed, I don't think they saw the X1000 as
    > a good candidate (BH's involvement).

    Do they now? ;-)

    > Maybe Trevor can get Varisys to design a Qorlq based system with us in mind

    I don't think a QorIQ-based system designed with MorphOS in mind would look any different from a QorIQ-based system designed without MorphOS in mind ;-)
  • »08.10.12 - 07:28
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    Yasu
    Posts: 1724 from 2012/3/22
    From: Stockholm, Sweden
    So can you run MorphOS on an Efika MX?

    Edit: Never mind. It's out of stock.

    [ Edited by Yasu 08.10.2012 - 12:32 ]
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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    Andreas_Wolf,
    Quote:


    > until Aeon was reformed, I don't think they saw the X1000 as
    > a good candidate (BH's involvement).

    Do they now? ;-)


    You know I can't speak for them, but I think they might consider it if hey were compensated.

    Andreas_Wolf,
    Quote:


    > Maybe Trevor can get Varisys to design a Qorlq based system with us in mind

    I don't think a QorIQ-based system designed with MorphOS in mind would look any different from a QorIQ-based system designed without MorphOS in mind ;-)


    No, I guess not. ;-)

    Andreas_Wolf,
    Quote:


    Yasu said he would only buy "new hardware that is still being made".


    But, it would meet this requirement.
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »08.10.12 - 15:05
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  • Paladin of the Pegasos
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    redrumloa
    Posts: 1424 from 2003/4/13
    Jim,
    Quote:

    NOS, anyway Red.


    Yup :-)

    Quote:

    BTW - What video card are you using?


    Currently using a Radeon 8500LE (PC version flashed as Mac Radeon 8500).

    I am keeping an eye out for a Radeon 9800 to be ready for R300 3D support.
  • »08.10.12 - 16:26
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2053 from 2003/6/4
    Yasu,
    Quote:

    So can you run MorphOS on an Efika MX?

    No, not on the Efika MX. But on Efika5200B. Those are still on sale and a funn ylittle hardware, but nothing to work seriously with (too limited).
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  • Jim
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    Jim
    Posts: 4977 from 2009/1/28
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    redrumloa,
    Quote:

    I am keeping an eye out for a Radeon 9800 to be ready for R300 3D support.


    Yeah, its actually one of the easier cards to re-flash.

    Your using an 8500LE, eh? I had a 9100 until recently (pretty much the same card). Definately a better performer then the 9000 or 9200. And really cheap to acquire. Right now, probably the second fastest card under MorphOS (the fastest being a standard 8500).
    "Never attribute to malice what can more readily explained by incompetence"
  • »08.10.12 - 18:42
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Derringer
    Posts: 103 from 2008/8/4
    From: Budapest, Hung...
    Back to the original topic. I think Scriba (now 0.9) looks promising. Far from complete app, but there is a new version every week. If the author continoues like this, we have complete office siute by this xmas.

    As mentioned earlier a '88 Corolla was good, but to get this to up to date is cost more than if you buy a new car.



    [ Edited by Derringer 09.10.2012 - 10:56 ]
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    Morphos G5 2,7GHz, 8GB Ram, 500GB Hdd, ATi Passive cooled 9800 PRO/128MB
  • »09.10.12 - 09:53
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  • MorphOS Developer
    zukow
    Posts: 642 from 2005/2/9
    From: Poland
    regarding spreadsheet:
    There is quite uptodate spreadsheet written in MUI but not working on MorphOS:
    http://aminet.net/biz/dbase/DataM_II.lha

    I cannot contact its author. If someone has contact to him, please let me now. Maybe Christoph Kirsch could release sources.
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12058 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > I cannot contact its author. If someone has contact to him, please let me now.

    http://www.dojolauda.de/?page=impressum
  • »09.10.12 - 12:45
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  • MorphOS Developer
    zukow
    Posts: 642 from 2005/2/9
    From: Poland
    wow, thx
    i'll write an email and ask Christoph for the source.
  • »09.10.12 - 15:30
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  • Yokemate of Keyboards
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12058 from 2003/5/22
    From: Germany
    > He would be willing to sell the source rights; but no one in all these years
    > has mentioned money sufficient enough for him to take the offer seriously.

    http://amigaworld.net/modules/newbb/viewtopic.php?topic_id=39672&forum=32 :-)

    > Final Calc [...] was written by Khalid Aldoseri, so he owns the rights to that source.

    ...which thus is not part of Terminills' purchase:

    http://www.amiga.org/forums/showpost.php?p=780007


    Edit: added 2nd quote and link

    [ Edited by Andreas_Wolf 17.12.2014 - 17:41 ]
  • »12.12.14 - 13:49
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