New MUI Beta 10.06.2007
  • Paladin of the Pegasos
    Paladin of the Pegasos
    ThePlayer
    Posts: 1068 from 2003/3/24
    From: Hamburg/Germany
    A new MUI Beta is available.
    PowerMac G5 Quad 2.5 running UWQHD Resolution
  • »07.10.07 - 09:28
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Framiga
    Posts: 363 from 2003/7/11
    From: Milan-Italy
    ouch! thanks luky-amiga, i didn't notice it.

    Pity that he didn't removed the crap debug/error output, from some MUI apps.
  • »07.10.07 - 14:30
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Gelb
    Posts: 148 from 2003/3/4
    From: #amigazeux
    > Pity that he didn't removed the crap debug/error output, from some MUI apps.

    Are you complaining about debug output of a non public beta version or about the lack of Stefan to remove debug output from MUI apps he has no control of?

    Both make no sense.
  • »07.10.07 - 15:14
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Framiga
    Posts: 363 from 2003/7/11
    From: Milan-Italy
    5/0.System3.9:C> sashimi
    Sashimi installed ([Ctrl]+C or "Break 5" to remove)
    0000000000000000MUIP_AskMinMax: bogus: min=-8/15 def=-8/15 max=10067/15 for obj=0x099da860(udata=0)(Group.mui)In Arrivo
    0000000000000000MUIP_AskMinMax: bogus: min=-8/19 def=-8/19 max=10000/19 for obj=0x09451c88(udata=0)(Group.mui)
    00000000000000000MUI_LayoutObj: obj=0x0940ae38(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 10152/10329 8x8 failed completely (min=0x0 max=0x0)
    00000000000000000MUI_LayoutObj: obj=0x094e3ce0(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 10697/10329 8x8 failed completely (min=0x0 max=0x0)
    00000000000000MUIP_ShowClipped: obj=0x0940ae38(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 <- no previous MUIM_Layout
    00000000000000MUIP_ShowClipped: obj=0x094e3ce0(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 <- no previous MUIM_Layout
    00000000000000000MUI_LayoutObj: obj=0x0940ae38(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 10152/10329 8x8 failed completely (min=0x0 max=0x0)
    00000000000000MUIP_ShowClipped: obj=0x0940ae38(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 <- no previous MUIM_Layout
    00000000000000000MUI_LayoutObj: obj=0x094e3ce0(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 10697/10329 8x8 failed completely (min=0x0 max=0x0)
    00000000000000MUIP_ShowClipped: obj=0x094e3ce0(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 <- no previous MUIM_Layout
    00000000000000000MUI_LayoutObj: obj=0x0940ae38(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 10152/10329 8x8 failed completely (min=0x0 max=0x0)

    you decide then!
  • »07.10.07 - 15:21
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  • Just looking around
    BeNZo
    Posts: 18 from 2007/10/7
    Hi to all!
    It's my first post here, but I follow you since some months.

    The new "framed groups" color settings
    (MUI Prefs -> Group -> Framed Groups -> Color)
    don't works here with this MUI beta (10-6-2007)

    and the gauge.mui seems to be visibly slower..
    Please delete this account.
  • »07.10.07 - 15:41
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
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    Gelb
    Posts: 148 from 2003/3/4
    From: #amigazeux
    @framiga

    Well, you are using a beta version. Live with debug output or install latest public version. I can't really understand what you are complaining about.
  • »07.10.07 - 17:52
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Framiga
    Posts: 363 from 2003/7/11
    From: Milan-Italy
    Quote:


    Gelb wrote:
    @framiga

    Well, you are using a beta version. Live with debug output or install latest public version. I can't really understand what you are complaining about.



    if you "can't understand" its your fault, not mine.
  • »07.10.07 - 18:20
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  • Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    Priest of the Order of the Butterfly
    warface
    Posts: 653 from 2003/2/24
    From: Hungary
    Quote:

    if you "can't understand" its your fault, not mine.


    I think debug output is an intentional "side effect" of it being a beta. Presumably for more precise and detailed feedback purposes.
  • »07.10.07 - 20:48
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2968 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    The debug output is there to point out bugs in applications or MUI classes. For example the layout debug above comes from NList bugs.
  • »08.10.07 - 06:23
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Framiga
    Posts: 363 from 2003/7/11
    From: Milan-Italy
    Thank you both for your kind replies.

    Is the enviroment "muidebug" switch actually working?
  • »08.10.07 - 11:48
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  • MorphOS Developer
    jacadcaps
    Posts: 2968 from 2003/3/5
    From: Canada
    As far as I remember this kind of debug is not conditional. Better whine to people really resposible for it - that is, the autors of apps/classes.
  • »08.10.07 - 11:55
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Framiga
    Posts: 363 from 2003/7/11
    From: Milan-Italy
    effetively that debug output, affects only apps using NList (no prob with IBrowse and Sputnik f.e).

    I've tryed everything to avoid the huge slowsdown under MOS for PowerUP (above all using YAMdev) but the only solution was to stick this line in User-Startup:

    run >NIL: sashimi

    No way to redirect that debug in ramdebug. (at least i didn't find any)
  • »08.10.07 - 12:12
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  • MorphOS Developer
    kiero
    Posts: 129 from 2003/2/28
    yes, "muidebug" switch is working, and you can enable more debug with it.
  • »08.10.07 - 13:19
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  • Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Acolyte of the Butterfly
    Gelb
    Posts: 148 from 2003/3/4
    From: #amigazeux
    @framiga
    > if you "can't understand" its your fault, not mine.

    Well, if you don't know what beta versions are, don't use them and quit whining.
  • »08.10.07 - 13:26
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  • Order of the Butterfly
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    Phantom
    Posts: 381 from 2004/9/7
    @Gelb & Framiga

    You are both fantastic... hahaha :-P
  • »09.10.07 - 12:47
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