A new MUI Beta is available.

Beware of new Clock.mcc 1.5 (30.04.2007)...
It's not compatible with MorphOS 1.4.5 preferences (Time)

ouch! thanks luky-amiga, i didn't notice it.

Pity that he didn't removed the crap debug/error output, from some MUI apps.

> Pity that he didn't removed the crap debug/error output, from some MUI apps.

Are you complaining about debug output of a non public beta version or about the lack of Stefan to remove debug output from MUI apps he has no control of?

Both make no sense.

5/0.System3.9:C> sashimi
Sashimi installed ([Ctrl]+C or "Break 5" to remove)
0000000000000000MUIP_AskMinMax: bogus: min=-8/15 def=-8/15 max=10067/15 for obj=0x099da860(udata=0)(Group.mui)In Arrivo
0000000000000000MUIP_AskMinMax: bogus: min=-8/19 def=-8/19 max=10000/19 for obj=0x09451c88(udata=0)(Group.mui)
00000000000000000MUI_LayoutObj: obj=0x0940ae38(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 10152/10329 8x8 failed completely (min=0x0 max=0x0)
00000000000000000MUI_LayoutObj: obj=0x094e3ce0(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 10697/10329 8x8 failed completely (min=0x0 max=0x0)
00000000000000MUIP_ShowClipped: obj=0x0940ae38(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 <- no previous MUIM_Layout
00000000000000MUIP_ShowClipped: obj=0x094e3ce0(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 <- no previous MUIM_Layout
00000000000000000MUI_LayoutObj: obj=0x0940ae38(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 10152/10329 8x8 failed completely (min=0x0 max=0x0)
00000000000000MUIP_ShowClipped: obj=0x0940ae38(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 <- no previous MUIM_Layout
00000000000000000MUI_LayoutObj: obj=0x094e3ce0(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 10697/10329 8x8 failed completely (min=0x0 max=0x0)
00000000000000MUIP_ShowClipped: obj=0x094e3ce0(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 <- no previous MUIM_Layout
00000000000000000MUI_LayoutObj: obj=0x0940ae38(udata=0)(Image.mui)0x0 10152/10329 8x8 failed completely (min=0x0 max=0x0)

you decide then!

Hi to all!
It's my first post here, but I follow you since some months.

The new "framed groups" color settings
(MUI Prefs -> Group -> Framed Groups -> Color)
don't works here with this MUI beta (10-6-2007)

and the gauge.mui seems to be visibly slower..

@framiga

Well, you are using a beta version. Live with debug output or install latest public version. I can't really understand what you are complaining about.

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if you "can't understand" its your fault, not mine.

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I think debug output is an intentional "side effect" of it being a beta. Presumably for more precise and detailed feedback purposes.

The debug output is there to point out bugs in applications or MUI classes. For example the layout debug above comes from NList bugs.

Thank you both for your kind replies.

Is the enviroment "muidebug" switch actually working?

As far as I remember this kind of debug is not conditional. Better whine to people really resposible for it - that is, the autors of apps/classes.

effetively that debug output, affects only apps using NList (no prob with IBrowse and Sputnik f.e).

I've tryed everything to avoid the huge slowsdown under MOS for PowerUP (above all using YAMdev) but the only solution was to stick this line in User-Startup:

run >NIL: sashimi

No way to redirect that debug in ramdebug. (at least i didn't find any)

yes, "muidebug" switch is working, and you can enable more debug with it.

@framiga
> if you "can't understand" its your fault, not mine.

Well, if you don't know what beta versions are, don't use them and quit whining.

@Gelb & Framiga

You are both fantastic... hahaha