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That is funny.
OK, we've let this deteriorate to the point where Andreas is resorting to humor.
And if our most logical abandon agument...

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Show me one other person on this forum site that has suggested supporting any OS that will still have all of the original AmigaOS drawbacks. The current MorphOS has those drawbacks, because binary compatibility was a priority when MorphOS was first created. The x64 version of MorphOS will drop binary compatibility, and is aiming for full memory protection, SMP, resource tracking, and will use emulation to allow running of legacy software.

Your posts make less and less sense, the further you attempt to push this idea of using Unix for the x64 version of MorphOS.

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Exactly. These are ports from other platforms not Amiga/MorphOS specific programs.

> That is funny.

How is geit's posting I linked to funny?

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That is NOT what I get when I click that link.
I didn't think you would resort to humor.
But what I get IS quite humorous.

And this thread hasn't much to offer in information, intellegent conversation,or humor.

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YES! And MorphOS specific programming does not require AmigaOS 3.1 system calls either.
Franlkly, I hope for their devaluation in MorphOS X64.
What among them is essential for writing code?
And what among these twenty year or older routines makes them worthwhile?

All I want is a quick, streamlined OS that incorporates the best features of MorphOS.
AmigaOS, I can leave that to Hyperion's user base.

After all, we have the best programmers remaining in our community.
Why not trust them to give us a fresher base than would be the result of continuing to drag about the corpse of OS3.1?

> That is NOT what I get when I click that link.

You should click my link, not what is made of my link inside a quotation :-)

http://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=10&topic_id=8432&start=58

AROS x86 is not worth of use crap because it has no binary compatybility and has all drawback of orginal Amiga Os.
There is no reasons to repeat old mistakes that AROS team made.
Morphos x86 is still not released.
It still may be something realy worth of use.

> MorphOS specific programming does not require AmigaOS 3.1 system calls either.

I think it does. After all, MorphOS API is a superset of AmigaOS 3.1 API.

> these twenty year or older routines

Work on MorphOS started 18 years ago, so that's the age of the oldest routines inside MorphOS (unless we want to restart the debate about illegal use of original source code).

One can do quite alot without directly calling any function documented in the 3.1SDK.

@all
can we please keep AROS out of this : )

It makes no sense to discuss it if everyone is living in his own world, based on own experiences and needs..

There is enough room for everyone.

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ppcamiga1 is an equal opportunity offender who has also had harsh words for a potential MorphOS x64 and Vampire running AmigaOS.

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I am curious. Since this statement applies to pretty much anything and anybody, what are we allowed to discuss in our daily lives then?

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Indeed, there is. Plenty of MorphOS users use AROS and AmigaOS as well. Anybody bothering to read this discussion thread would find MorphOS users defending AROS from criticism and also recommending it to people who are particularly... price-conscious.

How dare they! Better leave AROS out of it

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Exactly.
For memory menagment, files, network, opengl almost everbody use standard c functions and almost nobody use amiga os calls directly.
There is no reason to keep exec, dos, devices, filesystems, bsdsocket after move to non big endian cpu.
Everything below amiga gui i graphics should be cut off and droped.
All drawback of original amiga os like lack of resource tracking, memory protection, suport of multicore, drivers, posix compatyblity should be solved at time of ISA switch.
AROS x86 is crap because it has no source and binary compatybility but still has all this problems.
It is not too late for Morphos to make Morphos x86 really good.

> There is no reason to keep [...] bsdsocket after move to non big endian cpu.

A Unix proponent despising the BSD socket API? That's funny :-)

> All drawback of original amiga os like lack of resource tracking, memory protection,
> suport of multicore, drivers, posix compatyblity should be solved at time of ISA switch.

That's the current plan as I understand it.

> AROS x86 [...] has no source [...] compatybility

http://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?forum=3&topic_id=11037&start=275

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Actually, the graphics & cybergraphics APIs are so disconnected from what current graphics systems can offer, those should be 1st things to forget.

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And that's why MOS isnt getting many new users....

Came back for a look around 4 years later... I see nothing changes. See you in another 4 years (if MOS is still pootling along!)

@ Methanoid

Welcome back, and see you in 2024!