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    cyfm
    Posts: 537 from 2003/4/11
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    No, this definitely is no hint on forthcoming iMacG5 support within MorphOS ...

    Although the chances of iMacG5 support are better than ever with the MorphOS improvements that have been done in context of the introduction of PowerMac7,3 compatibility, personally I'm still not convinced to expand support to each and every machine that can't hide behind a tree quick enough to avoid getting supported by MorphOS just because we can ....
    So let's see how well received the current G5 support is in the next few weeks and then there is a slim chance of supporting devices like iMacG5 or other G5 models ....
    MorphOS definitely is in no need for more PPC hardware options IMHO - there are plenty of options now, albeit "used" ones.
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    Andreas_Wolf
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    > MorphOS definitely is in no need for more PPC hardware options IMHO -
    > there are plenty of options now, albeit "used" ones.

    Thanks for responding. Btw, what does your statement mean for Sam460ex support?
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    bash64
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    The need for iMac support is not for the G5 cpu, its for the very portable LCD.
    Its almost as good as a laptop, but with a 21" screen.
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    cyfm
    Posts: 537 from 2003/4/11
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf schrieb:
    > MorphOS definitely is in no need for more PPC hardware options IMHO -
    > there are plenty of options now, albeit "used" ones.

    Thanks for responding. Btw, what does your statement mean for Sam460ex support?


    This statement is completely unrelated to the announced Sam460ex support.
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/29
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    I scream, you scream, we all scream for ice cream iMac G5!
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    pega-1 wrote:,
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    No, this definitely is no hint on forthcoming iMacG5 support within MorphOS ...

    Although the chances of iMacG5 support are better than ever with the MorphOS improvements that have been done in context of the introduction of PowerMac7,3 compatibility, personally I'm still not convinced to expand support to each and every machine that can't hide behind a tree quick enough to avoid getting supported by MorphOS just because we can ....
    So let's see how well received the current G5 support is in the next few weeks and then there is a slim chance of supporting devices like iMacG5 or other G5 models ....
    MorphOS definitely is in no need for more PPC hardware options IMHO - there are plenty of options now, albeit "used" ones.


    I am glad to read that at least one member of the MorphOS Dev. Team agrees with my thinking that we now have more than enough different and excellent hardware choices for running MorphOS3.2 on, and I hope that they will spend the next several months, if not a couple of years, perfecting MorphOS3.x on the already supported computer models. Hopefully these extremely talented programmers will now also turn their attention toward creating, or porting more good software to run on MorphOS3.x, in addition to adding what ever essential new features are on their list of goals for MorphOS, while they continue to eliminate any bugs that are found in the current release.

    MorphOS3.2 is a significant step forward for MorphOS and the addition of G5 support opens up a few possibilities that were not available to us with the fastest supported G4 systems (though I have not yet confirmed this for myself).

    I think MorphOS3.2 is a great operating system, when we consider the limited resources available to create it, and the inherent limitations that came from it's Amiga roots.

    Thanks to every member of the MorphOS Dev. Team. With each new release of MorphOS, you confirm that I made the right choice when I decided to make MorphOS my first and primary Next Gen. Amiga operating system.
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/29
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    I do not agree. We need to top things off with iMac G5 and then we can rest.
    :-D
    I am completely biased in my opinion.
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/29
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    Will os 3.2 run on iMac G5, even half ass?
    Will it boot?
    :-P
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    Posts: 12085 from 2003/5/22
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    > Will os 3.2 run on iMac G5, even half ass? Will it boot?

    https://morph.zone/modules/news/article.php?item_id=2046&comment_id=7414&mode=thread
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/29
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    ok, so we have to get an iMac G5 to find out then.
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    SteveE617
    Posts: 80 from 2013/1/26
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    bash64 wrote:
    ok, so we have to get an iMac G5 to find out then.



    I'm surprised nobody here has even tried it yet...someone out there must have an iMac G5!
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/29
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    I am hesitant to buy one with the depressing attitude of the developers about it, so would someone with one try it please!
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    bash64 wrote:
    I am hesitant to buy one with the depressing attitude of the developers about it, so would someone with one try it please!
    :-D



    Shouldn't be too hard to find a second hand computer recycler, or pawn shop, or thrift store, that has one of the G5 iMac models you want to test and ask them to let you test out the software you want to run on it. Just don't tell them that you are installing a second operating system, as that would probably freak them out and get you an answer of "NO". Then insert a pre-burned MorphOS3.2 installation CD and see if it will boot from it. If it boots from the CD, then there might be a chance that it will accept the installation of MorphOS3.2, but I wouldn't get my hopes up very high, as usually each release of MorphOS will only boot on and install on only the supported models that are listed by the MorphOS Dev. Team.
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    Andreas_Wolf
    Posts: 12085 from 2003/5/22
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    >>> Will os 3.2 run on iMac G5, even half ass? Will it boot?

    >> https://morph.zone/modules/news/article.php?item_id=2046&comment_id=7414&mode=thread

    > ok, so we have to get an iMac G5 to find out then.

    So you don't think "nope" simply means "nope" then?
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    Nope.
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    SteveE617
    Posts: 80 from 2013/1/26
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    Quote:

    Andreas_Wolf wrote:

    > ok, so we have to get an iMac G5 to find out then.

    So you don't think "nope" simply means "nope" then?


    Well, I guess that answers that.....


    [ Edited by SteveE617 14.06.2013 - 09:05 ]
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    bash64,
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    In recent releases the boot.img checked for the device id and refused proceeding to boot unless the id matched one of the supported ids.
    The only device reported so far that booted MorphOS that was not directly intended/listed was some PowerMac G4 Cube. The 1.42GHz eMac was also running untested, but it was assumed to run anyway.

    And as interesting as I think the iMac G5s are (no big box, relativey powerfull while no insane wattage) I also agree that current hardware support is more than sufficient and the ratio of effort/benefit wouldn't be a particular good one. Resources should put elsewhere - polishing what's there, adding features/applications and finally preparing and doing the big switch.
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/29
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    ok, how much money to bribe you?
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    stephen_robinson
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    I'm just amazed no ones even like tried it once.
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    Yasu
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    Wouldn't an iMac G5 MOS port make a lot of sense? With this, it feels like hardware wise MOS has gone as far as it can. Next step then would be to keep improving the OS itself until the day comes when we have to change platform.
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    Zylesea
    Posts: 2053 from 2003/6/4
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    While it's a decision of the team anyway I'd suggest to wait a little and watch the registrations numbers of G5. So far not many have registered which isn't really promising for a possible iMac G5 version.
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    bash64
    Posts: 958 from 2010/10/29
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    ok, not interested even if there is a bounty?
    :-(

    How many G5 regs do you need???
    Would that be considered a bounty fulfillment if we all go out and buy G5s and register?
    Does buying an iMac G5 and registering count (I guess manually register).

    p.s. Make sure you do the iMac G5 that is real easy to take apart and upgrade.


    [ Edited by bash64 13.06.2013 - 21:03 ]
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    Oscar
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    I would have thought the iMac G5 would have been more readily available and perhaps a better choice just because there are probably more of them around. I prefer the PowerMac though. Concerning the few G5 registrations, it may be that some people are just waiting for the early adopters to iron out any issues before taking the leap.
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    Doffo
    Posts: 507 from 2010/10/14
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    Oscar,
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    it may be that some people are just waiting for the early adopters to iron out any issues before taking the leap.


    I would of registered my G5 by now, but as you said, I am waiting for the bugs to be taken care of. But I am ready to register as soon as they are fixed.
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    ausPPC
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    Bear in mind that a bounty helped to bring about G5 support. A willing MorphOS team member was still part of the equation but money speaks louder than words. Having said that, I wonder how big an NVidia bounty would have to be...
    PPC assembly ain't so bad... ;)
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