Yokemate of Keyboards
Posts: 12086 from 2003/5/22
From: Germany
> You are now just being silly.
I don't think I am.
> i don't think anyone with half a brain would try to argue that the A1200 or Efika
> was still "still available new".
Regarding the A1200:
True, the A1200 was not "still available new" but available new
again, the difference being that it wasn't available new for many years in between.
Regarding the Efika 5200B:
Production ceased somewhen in 2008. Yet you could read statements like the following in 2009 and 2010 from persons other than me:
"
you can still buy brand new Efika mainboards and Efika-based systems from various retailers (Directron in the USA / North America, AusPPC in Australia, Vesalia in Germany/Europe). [...] Right now, you can *still* buy brand new hardware with legal warranty in order to run MorphOS 2.x."
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=6409&forum=3&start=6
"
[you] can still buy brand new EFIKA 5200 mainboards and / or EFIKA-based kits from resellers such as Directron (USA) or Vesalia (Germany). This entry-level platform has been consistently available to MorphOS enthusiasts for years now."
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7001&forum=3&start=126
"
If you prefer brand new hardware, Directron, Vesalia and possibly others are still selling Efika 5200B mainboards as well as complete systems based on this particular mainboard."
https://morph.zone/modules/newbb_plus/viewtopic.php?topic_id=7267&forum=11&start=2
I don't think it makes any difference regarding the status of the product whether it's been out of production for 2 years or for 6 years. If the remainders could be called "still available new" 2 years after production stop, they can be called the same 4 years later. And it definitely means the remainders of the latest Sam460 production run can be called "still available new" much less than 2 years after production.
> You are the one being misleading.
I don't think I am. I'm stating facts and I can can back up each and every one of them.
> Why is a head scratcher.
Because I like facts being told, even when this concept may sound alien to some.
> no new Sam460 yet, despite several announcements of production runs.
Indeed.
> Are they having QA issues?
It may have to do with something called "
Sam460cr". *
* Details on this given by a Slovak retailer, comparing
Sam460cr with
Sam460ex shows these differences:
- no SM502 embedded MoC (audio/video)
- no Audio 5.1 Realtek ALC655 codec
- no SATA2 port
- about 13.5% cheaper
- "
this board will replace the Sam460ex board."